|
0 registered (),
8
Guests and
5
Spiders online. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Registered: 07/09/04
Posts: 15
|
|
5167 Members
107 Forums
15061 Topics
182759 Posts
0 Posts past hours
Max Online: 722 @ 04/10/08 12:10 PM
|
|
|
#124397 - 12/01/06 08:44 PM
Re: Physics behind rim shots
[Re: ]
|
Registered: 10/18/05
Loc: NC
|
Quote:
Look you guys. Stop trying to avoid the obvious. What happens in order to make a rim shot? The stick makes contact with both the head and the RIM. Where do you think the energy from the rim goes? Into the shell! Not only do you have air between heads vibrating, but now youve made the entire drum vibrate. How could say a rimshot is not louder. thats the whole idea of the rimshot. A louder sound for an big accent or impact. Theres no such thing as a three inch rimshot. You put more velocity behind the stick when you play when, and that sends more energy into MORE of the drum. thats what makes it loud, and yes it is louder.
Are you suggesting that rimshots come in one volume?
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#124400 - 12/05/06 12:32 AM
Re: Physics behind rim shots
[Re: AlexGrant]
|
Registered: 12/30/04
Loc: Bergen County, New Jersey
|
I don't think you even need the rim for the rim shot. Have you ever tried a rim shot when you play on a table? By smacking the stick flat against the table, you make a loud noise with minimal force applied. The more area of the stick coming in contact with the surface, the louder it's going to be. Why? Easy, when you hit a drum, the stick vibrates in your hand and the stick bounces back up. The kinetic energy you put into the stick by accelerating it towards the drum head is only partially converted into sound. When you make the stick almost parallel with the head, you get a lot of contact area. Notice that the stick rebounds less with the strokes, and the really loud ones where most of the stick is used, there is almost no rebound at all. This is because a much larger portion of that kinetic energy was converted into sound energy.
Coolname, your theory is faulty. Energy travels in waves, but not because you hit the rim and the head at the same time. Hit the rim alone. You're only passing energy to the shell.
_________________________
Freshman - Learning to drum and read music
Sophmore - DMAE Bottom bass for football season, snare for marching season.
Junior - DMAE Snare section leader, highly requested drummer for many occasions and bands, paid in several situations.
Senior - Teaching beginners drumming, Jazz Band drummer, proud DMAE Drumline Captain and Drum Major.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#124401 - 12/05/06 01:12 PM
Re: Physics behind rim shots
[Re: cubanochulo]
|
Anonymous
![Tenure]()
|
Quote:
I don't think you even need the rim for the rim shot. Have you ever tried a rim shot when you play on a table? By smacking the stick flat against the table, you make a loud noise with minimal force applied. The more area of the stick coming in contact with the surface, the louder it's going to be. Why? Easy, when you hit a drum, the stick vibrates in your hand and the stick bounces back up. The kinetic energy you put into the stick by accelerating it towards the drum head is only partially converted into sound. When you make the stick almost parallel with the head, you get a lot of contact area. Notice that the stick rebounds less with the strokes, and the really loud ones where most of the stick is used, there is almost no rebound at all. This is because a much larger portion of that kinetic energy was converted into sound energy.
True but there is a little difference between the "slap" effect and a rimshot. You have to remember that the amount of surface area that you add when playing a rimshot compared to a standard hit is really small.
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
#124405 - 02/21/07 09:29 PM
Re: Physics behind rim shots
[Re: ]
|
Registered: 05/07/06
|
Quote:
True but there is a little difference between the "slap" effect and a rimshot. You have to remember that the amount of surface area that you add when playing a rimshot compared to a standard hit is really small.
what he said
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
Previous Topic
Index
