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#80451 - 05/08/05 01:01 PM Lock Flam Height
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How high should accented flams be played versus non-accented flams? I'm asking this because when working on a Shopping Spre, I'm not sure how high I should play the non-accented flams (the main stroke, not the grace).

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#80452 - 05/08/05 01:10 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: ZealotAssasin]
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The same height as everything else.
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#80453 - 05/08/05 03:13 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: TRiCksHoT]
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(Tap height.)
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#80454 - 05/08/05 07:00 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: hyperionmsu]
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So basically the main note of the flam isn't much higher than the grace note right?

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#80455 - 05/08/05 08:55 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: ZealotAssasin]
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yes, i would think that the grace note isn't much higher than main note. I honestly feel that the grace isn't really being changed that much, but you are accenting the main note instead.What I do is play the main note like I do with any other accented note, and you fit the grace note in to where you have a good flam sound, and where it feels most comfortable.
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#80456 - 05/08/05 11:41 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: Flamadiddle]
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the way i judge it, grace height should be around 1-3 inches [tap height], and the accent should be the height of the dynamic.

grace height is constant, accent is...not constant
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#80457 - 05/09/05 12:05 AM Re: Flam Height [Re: SCVbass11]
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Just because the grace note is written smaller, doesn't mean it has to be played softer. Grace note should be a tap relative to your current playing (if your playing at 6", the grace note is 6") and the accent is the next level up (unless specified otherwise)
If it is an unaccented flam, the dominant note should be tap height, and the grace note is the level below.
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#80458 - 05/09/05 05:07 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: ZealotAssasin]
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So basically the main note of the flam isn't much higher than the grace note right?



... in a way, yes.

In most cases, people will be playing 9"/3" (accent at 9", tap at 3") and play the flams at around 1" or 1.5" (from set, no lift). In this case, the flam stroke would be at 1.5" (normal flam height), and the note directly following would be 3" (tap height).

I've never heard anybody doing what the above poster is talking about - otherwise you'd see BD playing at 9"/6" with flam strokes at 6"... which isn't the way it happens, and I've never seen anyone else who does that.
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#80459 - 05/09/05 10:01 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: hyperionmsu]
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So basically the main note of the flam isn't much higher than the grace note right?



... in a way, yes.

In most cases, people will be playing 9"/3" (accent at 9", tap at 3") and play the flams at around 1" or 1.5" (from set, no lift). In this case, the flam stroke would be at 1.5" (normal flam height), and the note directly following would be 3" (tap height).

I've never heard anybody doing what the above poster is talking about - otherwise you'd see BD playing at 9"/6" with flam strokes at 6"... which isn't the way it happens, and I've never seen anyone else who does that.




Agreed. The height of the grace not always stays the same, unless you do things like flat flams and double stops. What he described is pretty much the way I play. I have never seen anyone play the way that the person 2 posts above described.

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#80460 - 05/09/05 11:08 PM Re: Flam Height [Re: hyperionmsu]
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I've never heard anybody doing what the above poster is talking about




Well, now you have...
Not really. I'm not really sure what exactly I was saying when I poted that...I was apparently half asleep.
Although I do let the grace note of my flams get higher the higher my taps are, but not to the extreme that I apparently wrote. What I should have said was: I don't keep my grace note heights constantly at 1", if I am playing FFF with accents, my grace note is probably between 3-6" otherwise the grace note gets lost. By the same token, if I am playing PP, my grace note is at like .5"-1", that way there is a difference in quality.

Sorry about the confusion, I must say I disagree with my above post also!!!
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