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#193232 - 08/14/09 02:03 PM
Re: TENOR TUNING thread
[Re: warboy]
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Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: US
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Not surprisingly, for me, the tenors I play (Dynasty) aren't tuned to notes. They're quint tenors: 6, 8, 10, 12, 13. We have Remo Ebony Emperor Crimplock heads on them. I've been on them for four years, and have three different tuning methods...
..with the first guy, we basically tightened them as much as possible. For me, this worked well for the highest (6") drum. It sounded O.K. for the 8", but the lowest two sounded way too high. It didn't get the deep tone that I was looking for. The 10" was alright - I don't remember what it sounded like, but it probably wasn't pretty.
...with the second guy, he tried to tune them to a pitch. They sounded fairly good, but they went out of tune easily (for various reasons obviously - how hard they were hit, etc.) They did sound good - all five of them, but they didn't keep the tune long.
...with the third guy, I have am trying to tune the 6" and 8" fairly high - so they have a cracking pop sound. The 10" and the 12" still sound mediocre. I did tune them so they sound the same all around the drum - something that was neglected in the past, but they don't sound good. I still don't know what to go for with these. I will probably go towards tuning them to a pitch. The 13" sounds good. My head is broken, but it gets the resonance and has a low sound. Somewhat like a floor tom of a drum set, but more resonance.
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#193233 - 08/14/09 02:12 PM
Re: TENOR TUNING thread
[Re: DrummingBlue]
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Registered: 06/30/08
Loc: Stamford, CT
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Not surprisingly, for me, the tenors I play (Dynasty) aren't tuned to notes. They're quint tenors: 6, 8, 10, 12, 13. We have Remo Ebony Emperor Crimplock heads on them. I've been on them for four years, and have three different tuning methods...
..with the first guy, we basically tightened them as much as possible. For me, this worked well for the highest (6") drum. It sounded O.K. for the 8", but the lowest two sounded way too high. It didn't get the deep tone that I was looking for. The 10" was alright - I don't remember what it sounded like, but it probably wasn't pretty.
...with the second guy, he tried to tune them to a pitch. They sounded fairly good, but they went out of tune easily (for various reasons obviously - how hard they were hit, etc.) They did sound good - all five of them, but they didn't keep the tune long.
...with the third guy, I have am trying to tune the 6" and 8" fairly high - so they have a cracking pop sound. The 10" and the 12" still sound mediocre. I did tune them so they sound the same all around the drum - something that was neglected in the past, but they don't sound good. I still don't know what to go for with these. I will probably go towards tuning them to a pitch. The 13" sounds good. My head is broken, but it gets the resonance and has a low sound. Somewhat like a floor tom of a drum set, but more resonance. It sounds like you're tuning from the top down. It'll be much easier for you to start with the 4 drum and work your way up to the spocks than the other way around.
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#193234 - 08/14/09 02:19 PM
Re: TENOR TUNING thread
[Re: bltsponge]
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Registered: 08/13/09
Loc: US
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Not surprisingly, for me, the tenors I play (Dynasty) aren't tuned to notes. They're quint tenors: 6, 8, 10, 12, 13. We have Remo Ebony Emperor Crimplock heads on them. I've been on them for four years, and have three different tuning methods...
..with the first guy, we basically tightened them as much as possible. For me, this worked well for the highest (6") drum. It sounded O.K. for the 8", but the lowest two sounded way too high. It didn't get the deep tone that I was looking for. The 10" was alright - I don't remember what it sounded like, but it probably wasn't pretty.
...with the second guy, he tried to tune them to a pitch. They sounded fairly good, but they went out of tune easily (for various reasons obviously - how hard they were hit, etc.) They did sound good - all five of them, but they didn't keep the tune long.
...with the third guy, I have am trying to tune the 6" and 8" fairly high - so they have a cracking pop sound. The 10" and the 12" still sound mediocre. I did tune them so they sound the same all around the drum - something that was neglected in the past, but they don't sound good. I still don't know what to go for with these. I will probably go towards tuning them to a pitch. The 13" sounds good. My head is broken, but it gets the resonance and has a low sound. Somewhat like a floor tom of a drum set, but more resonance. It sounds like you're tuning from the top down. It'll be much easier for you to start with the 4 drum and work your way up to the spocks than the other way around. Yeah. I'm used to doing it that way. What's the benefit of going up from the lowest? (Just curious. This is actually the first year where I've been looking around enough to realize how much of a joke my drumline is.)
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#195886 - 10/13/09 10:33 PM
Re: TENOR TUNING thread
[Re: Gonzo]
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Registered: 10/13/09
Loc: District 17, Ohio, USA
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Before I state my tuning practices, I would first like to say that I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Dynasty is overrated. That aside.........
Throughout high school, I got to march Yamaha and Pearl tenors. As previously stated, by one of the other members, the Yamaha sets tend to sound better cranked. I have the bulk of my tenor playing experience on Pearl tenors. They DO pack quite a bit more tone than Yamaha, although I gotta say they still sound great when cranked. They're actually quite versatile in my opinion. You can make 'em sound good low, cranked, and all points in between.
More recently, I've gotten my hands on some Dynasty tenors, since the line I tech uses a full line of Dynasty. They're alright. Not the best in tone, and not quite as versatile as Pearl, but you can still get them to sound good cranked, or at a medium pitch, but no lower.
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As far as tuning goes, it seems to me that it depends on the set you're using, and the music. As a general rule, if I'm tuning tighter, I make the intervals between drums smaller. Never below a minor third, but on tighter tunings, never above a major third. If I'm at a good medium/medium-high tuning, I tend to structure the intervals as below:
4<->3 = minor third 3<->2 = major third 2<->1 = minor third Then the spock/glock/shot drum is cranked high enough to cut, without being annoying.
On lower tunings, It's generally perfect 4ths across the board, with the spock a perfect 5th above drum one.
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When taking music into consideration, think of the theme. If you're doing something historic, tune lower. Go for somewhat of an "old-school" sound. Otherwise, medium to cranked is all you really need.
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I've never really thought of tuning to a specific key, but I'm definitely going to try that this week.
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