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#59569 - 10/19/04 12:15 AM
Re: Watching the drum major, yes or no
[Re: soq3]
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Registered: 04/16/03
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Read the rehearsing section of up front by jim casellsa and jim ancona. you can read it online at tapspace.com
Actually, I think you misinterpreted the book. Yes, he does use the words "watch the drum major" in the rehearsing section, but it was referring to the instructor. The instructor should first watch the drum major to make sure that his/her timing is consistent, etc. to see if mistakes are because there isn't any sort of constant tempo on the field. The Jims weren't exactly telling the performers to watch the drum major. In fact, when Ancona stood in front of us during our ballad sections/pit features, he would always figure out a different way to get time and we'd keep experimenting until we found a method that worked. Sometimes the drum major was involved, but I don't believe we ever got strict time from them (i.e. play about half a second behind her hands, etc).
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#59571 - 10/21/04 12:25 AM
Re: Watching the drum major, yes or no
[Re: Nick_The_Quick]
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Registered: 08/28/04
Loc: Levittown, PA, 19057
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Watching the drum Major may add some confusion, but, It looks 10x better than having a Timpani or Aux player stare into his drums or whatever he may be playing, and for most pits, we are up on the sideline, therefore looking back at the drumlines feet would require turning your back to the audience. No matter what kind of show you are putting on, you should never turn your back to the audience. Also, If a certain Pit player is off Tempo for whatever reason, whats the first thing the judge will say? "WATCH THE DRUM MAJOR"... By looking at the drum major to begin with, even if youre not following their specific tempo, it makes you look like youre concentrating, and you are aware of whats going on. Thusly, it will make the judges think that maybe its not you thats off, and that he should take a closer listen into the band to find where the real problem is. Never give the judges any reason to doubt your playing. Even if you are playing it way off, make it seem like you are playing the best show you have ever played before in your life, and By making it seem like your focusing on the drum major, they may just give you the benefit of the doubt.
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#59572 - 10/21/04 12:29 AM
Re: Watching the drum major, yes or no
[Re: CrazyonMallets]
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Registered: 01/21/02
Loc: London, UK
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Watching the drum Major may add some confusion, but, It looks 10x better than having a Timpani or Aux player stare into his drums or whatever he may be playing, and for most pits, we are up on the sideline, therefore looking back at the drumlines feet would require turning your back to the audience. No matter what kind of show you are putting on, you should never turn your back to the audience.
Also, If a certain Pit player is off Tempo for whatever reason, whats the first thing the judge will say? "WATCH THE DRUM MAJOR"... By looking at the drum major to begin with, even if youre not following their specific tempo, it makes you look like youre concentrating, and you are aware of whats going on. Thusly, it will make the judges think that maybe its not you thats off, and that he should take a closer listen into the band to find where the real problem is. Never give the judges any reason to doubt your playing. Even if you are playing it way off, make it seem like you are playing the best show you have ever played before in your life, and By making it seem like your focusing on the drum major, they may just give you the benefit of the doubt.
no judge that has any idea what he's doing would want you to watch the drum major.
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#59573 - 10/21/04 12:48 AM
Re: Watching the drum major, yes or no
[Re: CrazyonMallets]
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Registered: 04/16/03
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Watching the drum Major may add some confusion, but, It looks 10x better than having a Timpani or Aux player stare into his drums or whatever he may be playing, and for most pits, we are up on the sideline, therefore looking back at the drumlines feet would require turning your back to the audience. No matter what kind of show you are putting on, you should never turn your back to the audience.
Not true. An AUX/timpanist can watch feet and not have their backs to the audience if they're angled correctly. You get those boys to watch feet and have the mallet players who can't turn around play with the constant rhythm coming from the AUX/timpani so in effect, the pit is playing with the drumline's feet. Again, you don't have to stare at the drum major..there's a whole audience out there to look at instead of drums.
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Also, If a certain Pit player is off Tempo for whatever reason, whats the first thing the judge will say? "WATCH THE DRUM MAJOR"... By looking at the drum major to begin with, even if youre not following their specific tempo, it makes you look like youre concentrating, and you are aware of whats going on. Thusly, it will make the judges think that maybe its not you thats off, and that he should take a closer listen into the band to find where the real problem is. Never give the judges any reason to doubt your playing. Even if you are playing it way off, make it seem like you are playing the best show you have ever played before in your life, and By making it seem like your focusing on the drum major, they may just give you the benefit of the doubt.
Great idea....uh huh...right. I think that judges would be able to tell if you're not playing in time with the drum major too, no matter how hard you try to fake it. They'll think you're crazy. They would also be able to hear the drumline and how your parts should line up cause well...hey...it's an ensemble, right?
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#59577 - 10/22/04 11:37 PM
Re: Watching the drum major, yes or no
[Re: CrazyonMallets]
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Registered: 08/24/03
Loc: Battle Creek, Michigan
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I think that judges would be able to tell if you're not playing in time with the drum major too, no matter how hard you try to fake it. They'll think you're crazy. They would also be able to hear the drumline and how your parts should line up cause well...hey...it's an ensemble, right?
I beg to differ. Mission Viejo's WGL in 1999 had a part in their music in which the pit played slower than the drumline, which WAS ment to be. Suprisingly, they earned their silver medals.
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