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#198030 - 12/19/09 11:54 PM
Re: The dude on the end.
[Re: 9Volt]
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Registered: 09/20/08
Loc: Kansas
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I'll address the treatment part:
As center snare this year, I made it my duty to really push both ends of my line further than I'd push anything else. Sure it sucks to be end, but those two guys got so much out of it, not from me, but of the responsibility they cannot evade. They are, in essence, the bonds between battery sections. My bands theory is end snare, if connected with tenors, basses, trumpets...whatever, you are to listen to both center snare and whatever the other section is. As center, I listened to both my snares and the section by us to make ABSOLUTELY sure we were tracking right. It really got our drumline on the same tick, and we rarely had many phrasing issues at all during the season. Now, backfield marching with no backfield conductor, another story...
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#198075 - 12/21/09 11:52 PM
Re: The dude on the end.
[Re: Jeff]
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Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: USA
Post's Karma Value: 5
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I marched the end of Troy's Snareline this year, and yeah I won't lie... there were times when I wanted to pull my hair out. There is definatly more responsibility on the end than many spots. I'd even hazard to say that the only people with more responsibility are the center snares. (at least in my experience anyway)
Basically the point of this post is: 1) Yeah being on the end sucks, but you really do get the most out of your playing by being on the end for at least one season. Plus, its like Madoldskool said: "This is a future section leader candidate"
2) To all the people on the end, and frustrated to the point of pulling their hair out: Keep with it. You might get fussed at more, and you might have more responsibility than anyone except center, but your patience will be rewarded with a better line because of you.
3) To all the section leaders, who have and maybe haven't been there: One thing that is MAJORLY effective when dealing with dirt from the end (or any part of the line), is to switch the line's order during your warm-up routine. (A.K.A, put your two center snares on the end, so that you have a center snare on the end pushing the tempo, as well as giving the end snares somebody else to listen to.) We tried this one night before a rehearsal, and the line's performance as a whole was 10 times cleaner that night than the whole season.
Edited by CarrollDrummer (12/21/09 11:53 PM) Edit Reason: I failed spelling
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#198106 - 12/22/09 07:40 PM
Re: The dude on the end.
[Re: CarrollDrummer]
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Registered: 07/26/04
Loc: Lafayette, La
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moving with the posts in the thread... After my first 3 years in corps, I felt that I would definitely split center, my first year in college. On the previous DCI tour I placed well and had a high score in the I&E competition, but I ended up 1 inside the end. Our staff consisted of Jon Burbank and Mike Stevens(Cadets tecs/alums). They were so harsh on me, everything I did was wrong, and I ended up hating them personally. Tempo, Tempo, Tempo, was all I heard from them. They would make play segments for the whole line, and then expose all of my mistakes, never telling me what I needed to do to fix it. In 1999 Jeff Prosperie became our percussion guy, and I was asked to rejoin the drumline. In 2000 we did PASIC, and let me say marching with Jon and Mike was an honor, as well as playing a Prosperie book. Our snare feature was nuts(I'll drunk drum it), the first time we played it as a line, Prosperie called only 4 ticks. At the end of the season, Mike tells me the he couldn't believe that I was drumming on that level, and he was very much impressed...so at the end of the day, I became a contributor due to the torture that they put me through...I played snare in Mike's senior recital, by his request. So awesome
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#198531 - 01/13/10 12:08 AM
Re: The dude on the end.
[Re: 9Volt]
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Registered: 10/13/09
Loc: District 17, Ohio, USA
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I was in an oddball position. I came from a small school with a full line of ten. That's 5 basses, 3 snares, and 2 tenors. And in almost all our formations, the drum line was organized in a line. VERY FEW TIMES did we form some kinda block.
So, the snares, since there was only three, didn't have much difference in movement. However, the tenors and the larger basses had quite a bit at times. Anyways, common practice would declare that the better of two tenors sits closer to the middle of the line. That wasn't the case for me at my old school. I was drum line captain, and the only 4-year tenor player the school had seen, and HAS seen to date (we only march 9th and up). All through school, I got placed on the end.
Why? Because I was the best marcher. I had a better sense of where I needed to be, and had the skills (not to mention the legs, cuz I'm 6'1") to get there, so I had to set everything. When you think about it, it makes sense. If the ends of your forms are consistently where they need to be, the rest of the line doesn't need to work as hard to find their spots. If the ends are right, and the line must fit in the space, less can go wrong. It's a good approach, especially when the connecting tenor is really good as well. He was just as capable as I was at listening in, so there was no issue. --- Also, I remember when I was a freshman. The seniors in the line HATED me, because I was a freshman tenor player. I outscored everyone but the center snare int he audition, and she only beat me by two points (94 to 96, with 100 being perfect). So they resented me for that. I got even BETTER just to spite them, because I knew that no amount of kind words would change their views about me, so friendship wasn't an option.
And I can honestly say as a vet, when I was a senior, that I was nothing but supportive of the new guys. In fact, I liked the new guys better than I liked a lot of the older ones. I didn't give them hell, because that doesn't make conditions any better for rehearsal or performance. I wanted them to be good, so I kept pushing for them to get better in a proactive way, rather than tear them down and say things like "if we fail to get a Superior rating, it's your fault". The line is the line. It isn't divided by class standing. It's really not even divided by voice, since all the voices act as a unit 90% of the time (the other 10% being feature runs throughout the show). The line is a unit. It's a line. It's one voice. If we didn't make the rating, it's because we as a whole didn't play up to that level. No reason for blaming freshman, especially when they can almost outplay the vets.
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Northwest 04-08 - Tenors Marshall U. 2010 - Bass 6/7 Oak Hill Instructor - 09-10
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