Well I have been thinking of my winter line tap off, and right now i'm stuck on something based around this tap off.

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Therefore I am asking what is a tap-off you enjoy, wrote, stole, or just sat around and hacked?

I like the tap-off for Bunco Rules. Cavies cadence from the mid 90's. There's a decent video of Mississippi State playing it, on youtube, with the same tap-off.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq2yrNw6rd8

If you're playing at a high school level, I personally prefer just a standard 8th note count off, unless we're playing something like 16th note timing, then I'll subdivide to sixteenth notes for the last couple of counts. At a high school level, if you're playing something other than a standard count off, then it comes off as just an attempt to show off. Granted, there ARE exceptions, I just feel that playing some extravagant count off defeats the purpose behind the count off, which is to establish the tempo to the thing you're about to play. Some people play different count offs to cut the amount of talking before playing, so they won't have to say "Ok guys, now play 16th note accent pattern," then do your count off. I get that, but I can manage that with my guys without making something completely extravagant and distracting.

However, when you hit a high level where it does become more welcomed to be flashy, then I don't have a problem. If you're at that level, then you have the basics down enough to play things well and with good technique. So then, flashy count offs add a little bit of texture, and still should NOT take away from the playing ability. If it gets confusing and can cause dirtiness, it's unnecessary.

That was my little spiel, you're more than welcome to disagree.

............ I meant in general.

I don't agree with you fully. I understand what your portraying, yet the post was about drum tap off's overall. Many high school players are very good and drummers like to peck/hack. Yes, they do need to learn basics. It was more of a comment-type forum not a lecture.

Not being mean, just a little aggravated.
-and clearly stated

Tap offs are fun. I just made up one on the fly one time. We did a drumline piece for my old high schools prism concert and I combined some solos I've heard and a "hi mom" or over flip and I just melded it all together and it was pretty well received. It's a lot more satisfying to make up your own I think.

Haha nice hi moms are pretty cool I'm new to it so it's taking me some time lol

Well for a high school line, my personal suggestion would be not to throw anything too outrageous in there. Anything too serious you might want to add in might throw off the base of the music. Which brings up a point that I thought of. What are you tapping off? 8's? A show lick/movement? If it's like a 8's/bucks sort of thing, it would be best to leave those as is. No need to add in chops with what is intended for just a warm up. In the case of a show lick, I would talk to your director or the person who wrote the show.

That is the case of just placing the tap off at least. As far as making a tap off, I would really not "base" it off someone else's work. Not to imply that you will copy and paste anything, but I've found in my personal experiences that whenever I "base" a lick off of someone, it just turns to be a ripped lick with a new title. My personal suggestion would be to sit down and get funky. Go creative on paper, get good themes and ideas for what you want. After getting it all down rep it over and over again! If you tap off, that means every one in your line is depending on you to get it right. That means no over hyping because you haven't used it enough outside of the few times you do use it.

Please however do look into bcaviness's post. Although there might be some things you may not want to hear, there is quite a bit of truth in his post. Also don't forget to have all your beats clean before you start wanting to flair up a tap off. Not implying that you don't clean your beats, but it doesn't hurt to put across good info more than once. No body like dirty licks and a clean tap off. Not trying to be a jerk however in any way sir, just talking from past times of drum with friends.

Ok.
I understand where the idea is comign from both of the long responses, but honestly I was just making it for a fun topic to discuss or a lick someone loves to tap off with. I do understand if the goofiness interferes with the learning or drumming,then it should not be done. Knowledge and technique are very crucial. Some days, though, we just jam and hack and play random and fun licks. This is where I am coming from on the forum/topic. I had this discussion with my drumming friends and we talked about tons of differ tap off's, stories, ideas, and all the above. I apologize for the attitude in the earlier comment. I just want you to read it from my perspective instead of an up-tight, disciplined forum. Thanks for the warning and help though. I do appreciate it.

Well I'm sorry if I myself over read that statement a little much. I do apologize and I'll add on to more of what I was saying earlier.
I honestly think the tap offs that are the most fun are the ones that are just really out there. Straight upbeats, weird rhythms, and just being silly. Mostly because we all here the stock eighth and quarter tap and it just becomes a natural impulse to go with it. I like something that actually becomes a challenge to mark time to, like playing the e's and a's just to see if anyones paying attention for fun's sake. That and something more along the lines of something like this as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dW3zwfQZto

I apologize if I had come across any problems. And you stated exactly the point of view for most drummers. Any one else have any ideas, licks, etc ... ?

i preffer just a normal 8ths tap off then some complicated stuff

tap offs with buzzes and ping shots make me melt

check this one out
this is a video of Revolution DBC in Riverside Cali. from the 2010 tour this is a piece of the 16th note grid they do. check out the tap off that starts at .06 seconds is so simple but so awesome and set up an awesome vibe for the warm up. it was always a hype to hear it!

New data suggest a offline too......

"let me see you touch you're toes" "big booty hoes.... jump with it!"

That may be the most epic tap off ever.

my favorite tap off would be something like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX9vb_QGc74

And don't diss streight 8's. Watch the actual tap off and then tell me why you are too god for 8's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6NC4oo2Lsc

If you get around to playing a lot of licks you can take your favorite parts, and mesh them together with little work. All it is, is creativity. And of course its a lot cooler when it fits the context of the music about to come. My preference, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-AgQEQ_bA, the measure at 0:12 to 0:14 d: