Seriously guys, I notice it more and more every day. It seems like when a newbie to this forum makes a mistake we all seem to jump on his *** and get an attitude. now people make mistakes, I'm sure everyone of the mods has broken a rule at least once. It can be kinda funny, but it gets to a point where mods are just mean to new people, and if they disagree they seem to like being ***holes...I love you guys, but i think things need to change attitude wise around here. We can just treat people like crap and then expect them to want to come to this forum everyday.

i kinda see how it can rub them raw when every day someone comes on and just bypasses the rules. and i can also see from your point of view that they are just slamming them down. i dont think they are THAT though, i can see that they are just kinda done with the new members bypassing the rules.

i understand putting someone in there place, but it seems like they just like being mean lol

I almost agree with you. The occasional honest mistake is fine, after all we're human. But, a new person who just recently registered should know the rules. Why? Because they should have read them prior to making an account. Therefore, as logic dictates, they should still be fresh on their mind.

Coming on this forum day after day and seeing many new people post totally incoherent run on sentences gets old. Fast. I mean seriously, is it too hard to use a period every now and then? If I were a moderator going on like a broken record day after day I might get a little irritated too.

Also, see this thread. It basically sums up what else I have to say.

I think most of the problem is that when the mods/admin try to be firm and calm, since this is the internet (and as we all know emotion is not expressed well on the internet) people misconstrue the tone of the poster. As in, you may take it to be rude, while the mod/admin takes it to be firm and parent like.

But yes i think they're have been instances in which the mods could have been nicer/more polite. But that is not the case in most instances.

Most of the problems come from people lying. They hit the "agree" button that says they read the rules, when they truly haven't. They then don't even know they are breaking the rules. I know i did it. But since then i have read the rules (or at least most of them).

I think others jumping on people for breaking rules are out of place. Yes, i am being hypocritical, i have done this myself. But next time i am tempted to do it, it's "notify" button time.

darn it all! people always steal what i want to say in between when i hit "reply" and "submit". :-)

I can agree to this on circumstances. When you have someone who's takes a very condescending tone with the original poster, then it just causes a negative influence on the site.

However, when someone is being positive and is merely trying to be more informing than insulting, then it is beneficial to the overall flow of the site. Everyone should have a clear understand of the rules, and everyone should be able to positively make comments that will help fix situations on the site.

And honestly, I look at this way, as a new member, I would prefer to feel welcomed by a member that's been around for a while and correcting me positively, that to have an admin come in with a negative attitude toward the situation.

I've said this before on a thread about the automated grammar corrections, as long as the corrections/comment aren't harming the overall flow of DLO, then I think there's not so much of a problem.

at the risk of being trolled..I have noticed a bit of an elitist attitude from some members. But then again, they've been here the longest, this is really their home, not mine..if that makes sense.

So, I read all the posts and let me ask you a question.

You go out and buy a car. You fail to read all the loan paperwork and decide that you're not going to make the payments by the due date each month. Do you expect the loan company to be nice since you failed to read the rules?

Is it really to much to ask someone to a) read the rules and b) follow the rules? I mean, you have to mark that you've read them to become a member. If you don't like the rules, there are at least 2 other percussion forums out there, however, they don't have near the amount of information that this one has.

Yeah Bill, the problem lies in the neglect towards to the rules & conditions. But this is why...

It's the age of the internet, an age of second to second information. We can now jump from story to story and from site to site at our own pace, which today, frankly, is very fast. We are lured back to this internet thing by the speed of information. It's incredible how many resources are out there. So here's a situation:

You come to a website (DLO, for instance) and like the direction and mission of the organization, so you go deeper and seek membership. Here at DLO, it's easy, just agree to the rules. The problem is, whenever anybody joins anything that's through an impersonal medium as the internet, the agree box is checked before you can read the title "Rules and Conditions." I knew when I signed up here that this site seemed to be strictly "modded." I read consequences for failure to read and adhere to the rules about five times before I could even read a blog or make a post. It's on the new members, not the mods. They've put a lot of time into this site, which every active member appreciates greatly. They have stated clearly, all over this site, that your NEED TO READ THE RULES. Yeah, we all make mistakes, but reading the rules will keep you spot clean 98% of the time. Go mods, thanks for a great site!

So here's my take on it.

Not reading the rules, after specifically being told to and having to agree that you did, is like giving the mods here a big middle finger. It's basically saying that you're going to do what you want and be disrespectful to them. They put this site up for free. There are absolutely no membership fees to join and they don't get paid to moderate it. This isn't their job, it's something they are doing because they enjoy it. Having a resource like this is probably one of the best things for someone who wants to get better, and you don't mind if people come in and trash it?