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#183247 - 03/01/09 09:38 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Beeds]
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Yeah, I wouldn't actually go as far as to get random people to join the line but I think non-drummers with musical experience won't be a complete disaster.

A twelve-man line would be fine, but a seven-man line isn't.
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#183249 - 03/01/09 09:40 PM Re: Small Line [Re: equad33]
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Originally Posted By: equad33
i also thought that lincoln has really good feeder schools, cuz you guys always have numbers and produce a really nice sound???


The main school that fed into Lincoln, Swift Creek Middle, had a change in band director and the program is steadily crashing into the ground. Which means, our program is too.
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#183251 - 03/01/09 09:42 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Robotman8591]
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I agree with you. I think that I'll be fine if I can get just a bunch of wind players to mix with my percussionists. But the thing I have to oversome is actually getting them, but I will take into consideration some of your tips smile

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#183252 - 03/01/09 09:43 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Drumlinehoss]
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WOW! I'm pretty new to Drumlines.org, and this was only my first post, but I'm overwhelmed at the level of support here. This is a great website!

ok...praise off...
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#183253 - 03/01/09 09:44 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Drumlinehoss]
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yeah 7 prolly won't cut through as good in a 5A band. unless the band is playing soft but you need some cut through for those loud sections so you can add boom and rhythm to the show. =]

plus big drumlines are fun. my junior year we had 7 snares 5 tenors 5 bass plus like 13-14 Front ensemble. it was one big happy drummer family.
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#183255 - 03/01/09 09:46 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Robotman8591]
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Originally Posted By: Robotman8591

my junior year we had 7 snares 5 tenors 5 bass plus like 13-14 Front ensemble. it was one big happy drummer family.


sigh...I wish I could have that...
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#183257 - 03/01/09 09:55 PM Re: Small Line [Re: Beeds]
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Originally Posted By: Beeds
Picking kids out of the hallway is not a good idea. If you want to have the kind of book a 5A school should have, non-drummers will either destroy that book into shambles, or make the line water down a lot.


The OP's line tentatively has three snares, two tenors, and two basses for next year. They just need a couple of people to round out the bass line, not step into the snare line. Complete newbies can be effective bass players if parts are basic enough and they have decent rhythm and work ethic.

In the short term, it's a positive because you don't have to move people off snare and tenor spots to fill the bass line. You can keep the notes in the book and still have enough people playing 'em to project.

In the long term, it's a positive because you've got rookies who'll get on-the-job training they can apply in future years. If you're only getting one middle school recruit a year, who's going to man the snare and tenor lines in three years?

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If you have quality players right now, I'm sure you'll pass fine. A clean snare line is always better than a large snare line. A twenty person line would always be nice, but my school only has twelve battery members. We get by fine.


There's a huge difference between your twelve and his seven. Your battery is almost twice as big as his entire line. When you're at a school that doesn't have enough bodies to field a full line, you've gotta scrounge up talent wherever you can find it -- for now and future years.

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Recruit middle schooler's who have percussion experience... If your fielding a line for the field, it's not just the line your jeopardizing with non-drumming students, but the entire ensemble.


Yeah, I'm sure Mike McIntosh's old school regrets letting him switch from saxophone to dabble in percussion. His lack of drumming ability must've "jeopardized the entire ensemble". wink

...and I can probably come up with about a dozen other examples off the top of my head who had never drummed before joining their high school, college, or drum corps line.

Or for another example of non-drummers stepping into a line and contributing, check out Springstowne Middle School. It's not like there's a feeder program for middle schools, but they somehow manage to teach their rookies how to play.

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#183266 - 03/01/09 11:18 PM Re: Small Line [Re: SkyDog]
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There is a difference, SkyDog, between switching a musician to percussion, and "pulling someone out of the hallway." Musicians use percussive influences everyday in their performance.

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#183276 - 03/02/09 12:54 AM Re: Small Line [Re: Beeds]
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Originally Posted By: Beeds
There is a difference, SkyDog, between switching a musician to percussion, and "pulling someone out of the hallway."


Yes, I know that, but I've seen it work either way. I've seen people switch to percussion from other instruments and thrive. I've also seen people who were absolutely new to music contribute to their school or drum corps lines. I can list quite a few examples if need be.

The line I currently teach seems similar in number to drumlinehoss' line. If we relied on the middle school bands to provide all of our drummers, we'd have a four-person battery. Converts from other instruments only give us one more drummer, bringing the total to five. But our battery is more than twice that size because we recruited six drummers from outside the school music programs. Four of them were drummers taking private lessons or playing in church. Two had never played an instrument before.

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#183282 - 03/02/09 04:33 AM Re: Small Line [Re: Oak]
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Well recurit, I'd rather have non drummers that want to play than drummers who dont give a rip!! Teach them, show them how to play, get quality practices, not qunatity, and also go out in to the community to see of anyone wants to volunteer as a percussion coach / caption head and help teach them. I've played in the Airforce drum and bugle corp so I didn't get the oppertunity to go DCI or college, but I've learned that you don't have to do it alone. Help is there, just gotta find it.
Even the local colleges may have some drummers that are more than willing to help.

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