Spot on tenor11, and though the power clean may be a primarily leg based movement, they still involve a ton of shoulder, trap and arm work. If your looking to add a extra blast to your arms however, perhaps try out a power clean and jerk, or a snatch.

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For baseball we have a optional lifting period from November to mandatory practice in February. That is run by the JV coach, who is also the Football weightlifting coach. That's just something to catch you guys up so you don't think I'm pulling this out of the air.

He has us exploding with the weight, all legs, and then kicking our body under the weight (thats where the hip thrust comes into play) may just be the way he wants us to do it, I don't know. But that's how I've been taught, and I have yet to feel it anywhere else in my body. My hands are just there to balance the weight, not lift it. Is that some form of technique or something?

Well IMO no amount of leg drive or explosion can get a heavy weight up to shoulder level. Just because you cant feel the burn or aren't sore there doesn't mean that that muscle group isn't being used. Cleans aren't really an arm/shoulder/trap exercise anyway. They are used at the top end of the clean only to get yourself under the weight. It also may be that you're using a technique that I'm just not understanding through what you've said in your post.

Seems like my words started a good debate. And I saw a lot of people disagreeing with what I said about power cleans. I would just like to clear up thatthe technique I described were the exact words from my school's head football coach, who is the weights teacher.

Today I squatted 210, with my height being 5'7" and me weighing in @ 166 lbs. How good would you say that is?

^^ I'd say that's pretty good, that's just me though. If you did it with good form and went all the way to the 90 degree's, it sounds pretty good. That's what? Two 45's on each side?

Today I squatted 210, with my height being 5'7" and me weighing in @ 166 lbs. How good would you say that is?



That all depends...how long have you been lifting? How many times did you squat 210?

Up to then, a total of 20 weeks, with max-outs at each nine weeks (I lift during a seperate class specifically for lifting weights). My goal for maxout is 250, and I'll do that in 3 weeks.

I've squatted 210 only once before, during max-out at the end of last semester (we get three tries to "max" the max-out, and after my second try, which was 210, I took my third and ifnal try to max out at 215).

I know I use good form when I do squats, because I have a three person group to run through our weight-charts. One always spots me, and the other watches for parallel (compared to the floor) legs.

What would that mean for me?

If I can remember correctly, my max squat was about 250lbs back in my HS football days. I was 69 inches and weighed 130lbs. My defensive backs coach loved my freakishly large quads. "Wow, you have really big quads for your size."

I swam and rode a bicycle A LOT as a kid; that's the only explanation I could give.

Anyway, I'm getting off-topic... I'll self-moderate now...




...my legs never got tired when marching all day.

What can i do so that i will prepare for marching that doesn't require equipment?(like wieghts) Can i use a book or something? Or can i just do some body workouts?