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#151464 - 09/18/07 07:08 PM 2007 DLO Cadence Competition
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
The staff here at DLO is proud to announce the 2007 cadence contest. This will be a cadence writing competition that is open to all members of DLO and it will begin immediately. As with everything, there has to be rules and guidelines, so here is a list of things to keep in mind:


  • All Cadences must be original material and written by the person who is submitting it

  • Instrumentation will be as follows: snare, tenor(4, 5, or 6 drums) and bass (4 or 5 drums) NO CYMBALS

  • Each cadence must be marchable. There is no restriction on length or difficulty, but it must be in a "marchable" time signature (4/4, 3/4,2/4 etc) 13/16 doesn't work

  • Each cadence must be accompanied by an mp3. There are many soundfonts and programs to accomplish this floating around, so hopefully this is not a problem for anyone.

  • Cadences must be submitted in pdf format. If you do not have a program to create this file type, I suggest either CutePDF or PDF995. Both are free and easy to find on the internet. Also, please include the original file (finale, sibelius, etc) in your email.

  • Each cadence must have a name. The name can not include any part of your DLO username or your real name. Also, do not put your DLO name or real name on the cadence anywhere (there is a reason)

  • There will be a panel of judges to determine the finalist cadences; the winner will then be determined by a DLO community vote. We will announce the names of the judging panel later.

  • Attached to this post is a sample notation file. This includes actual music examples of a "standard notation" that will be used for this contest. All submissions must use this "standard." I understand that some of the symbols will be different than what you are used to, but this will make the process much easier for judging/voting purposes. If you do not use this "standard" your entry will be disqualified.

  • NOTATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. Unless the sticking is natural (RLRL), then it must be notated. This includes bass drum unisons. Dynamics, etc (if applicable) need to be included in your submission. This way your cadence is interpreted just as you envisioned, and nothing will be left to the imagination of the judges (trust me, that is a scary thought)

  • When you are FINISHED with your cadence and ready for it to be submitted, you will need to send an email to . The subject header should read "Cadence Contest Entry: (your cadence name)". The body of the email should include your real name (first and last), DLO name and the title of your cadence. You are not allowed to share the name of your cadence with anyone, or your entry will be disqualified. The judges will only know the name of the cadence, and not the composer. This will allow the judging to be impartial.

  • Some of you are probably wondering 'what is my incentive for entering?' Well, first you will have your work judged by a panel of your drumming peers and you will receive constructive praise and criticism that will help you with your writing in the future. Also, all of the finalist cadences (and select ones of the other entries) will be posted on DLO for everyone to enjoy. Finally, there will be a prize for the winners. The exact prize or prizes are still being finalized, but I promise you they will be percussion related.

  • The earliest date for submission is October 1st with the last day for submissions being December 31st. That gives everyone roughly 2 1/2 months to get something prepared. This long time frame is due to many members of this site being involved with high school marching bands during this same time. Hopefully, everyone will have plenty of time to get a cadence submitted.


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Ok, now here is the criteria on which each cadence will be judged:


  • PLAYABILITY : Realism of what is written on the page. Can a line realistically play this piece? Are the tenor parts too wierd and outrageous that only the 92 SCV quad line can play them? Also, does the tempo fit the amount of notes on the page?

  • CLEANLINESS OF SCORE : Are the parts readable? Do you have noteheads turning up, down and sideways? Is the sticking overlapping into the actual music? Is your pdf 8 pages long because you haven't adjusted the number of measures per system? Bottom line: the music must look as good as it sounds

  • MARKETABILITY : Would someone spend time whipping out a credit card and downloading this cadence? Would there be requests for the sheet music on drumming forums (not a good idea by the way)? Would people spend time transcribing it so that their line could play it without paying for it? Would people stand in the lot and eagerly anticipate this piece being played? Is this the next electric wheelchair?

  • GROOVE : Can you find the beat while listening? Does it make you involuntary turn into a bobble head? Will every high school line in the country be playing some version of it so they can be cool? Does this cadence make Patti want to shake dat thang?

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Ok, there ya go. Hopefully, I covered everything. If you have any questions feel free to post them here. Oh, and please make sure you actually read everything above before you start asking questions that already have answers. Enjoy, and good writing.


Attachments
263646-Finale2007-[samplenotation.pdf (1248 downloads)



Edited by drumholio (10/02/07 10:24 AM)
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#151465 - 09/18/07 07:23 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: drumholio]
Ironman7 Offline


Registered: 02/22/04
Loc: Springfield M.A
Any restrictions on number of submissions? The Tapspace contest there were people who submitted more than one piece...Just curious.
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#151466 - 09/19/07 03:58 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: Ironman7]
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
Ok, ironman, your question has been discussed, and we are going to allow TWO (2) cadence entries per person. The thinking is that if we allow more than that, then the submissions might be rushed because people are trying to get as many cadence entered as possible.

We are going to make an announcement regarding prizes and the judges panel soon.
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#151467 - 09/19/07 11:18 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: drumholio]
geefunk Offline


Registered: 06/07/03
Loc: San Diego CA
The grace notes in the sample are 16th notes. Can we write 8th note graces with a slash and still be okay?
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#151468 - 09/20/07 10:33 AM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: geefunk]
kevin_fu Administrator Offline


Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Yes...

As long as its fairly "standard" and consistent throughout.
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#151469 - 09/20/07 12:14 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: kevin_fu]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
I'm curious what the basis for no cymbals was?

(not arguing, just a genuine curiosity- my guess is notation issues)
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#151470 - 09/20/07 02:31 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: snarepaint]
kevin_fu Administrator Offline


Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Notation issues, mostly.


Let me cut and paste some of what I said in the moderator discussion of the competition...


I'd suggest not doing cymbals because I know someone will make a cadence that is otherwise good but the cymbals would be an afterthought, and that would change the success they may have had otherwise. I'm confident I could write cymbal parts, and I have before. However, I've seen others and rarely are they written well...a problem most people have is they haven't played the instrument itself so they're giving the cymbals notes and crashes that have little thought to them (the main mistake of cymbal writers is having too many notes).

Also, standardizing names of crashes and such are largely subjective at this point in the activity of marching percussion.
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#151471 - 09/20/07 04:16 PM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: kevin_fu]
drumn43 Offline


Registered: 05/23/04
Loc: Plano, Texas
Are accessories on the instruments acceptable? (such as: Cowbells attached to snares, bass drums with jam blocks attached to the rims?)
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#151472 - 09/21/07 11:30 AM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: drumn43]
AsianTenorGuy Offline


Registered: 07/29/03
Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Nice....I have had a cadence JUST for another competition ;D. I'll go change the notations right now.
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#151473 - 09/22/07 09:34 AM Re: 2007 DLO Cadence Competition [Re: drumn43]
kevin_fu Administrator Offline


Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Quote:

Are accessories on the instruments acceptable? (such as: Cowbells attached to snares, bass drums with jam blocks attached to the rims?)




Sorry, for this competition we're asking that there be no auxiliary instruments. Think of writing this to the lowest common denominator. A typical high school doesn't have the luxury of putting hi-hats, crashes, cowbells, extra spock drums on snares, jam blocks, etc. on their drums. Heck, they're often lucky if they can get rim protectors for their basses. Write for the standard notation we mentioned: snares, tenors(4,5,6) and basses (4,5).

Playing on the rim is allowed.
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